CEO OLX Group Indonesia, Johnny Widodo on business rebound strategies that businesses should adopt for facing the growth phase post-pandemic.
In this Research NXT Interview, Johnny Widodo, CEO OLX Group Indonesia, talks to us about the evolution of the digital-first industry since the pandemic started and how people and businesses’ behaviors have changed. He also discusses the trends emerging in the Southeast Asian markets in the new normal.
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Here are some extracts from the insightful conversation we had with Johnny.
Thanks, Johnny, for your time today. You’ve been very closely associated with multiple digital-first initiatives, OLX Autos (part of OLX Group) being one of them. So, if could you give a brief about your journey and the current role at OLX Autos?
Johnny: I came from an engineering background and started my career as an R&D engineer in Singapore for many years, and then I pivoted into more of a commercial role after my MBA from Nanyang Business School. I joined the consulting firm at A.T. Kearney in Jakarta and spent a couple of years there and then moved to the CP Prima group, one of the largest aquaculture companies in Southeast Asia. I was in charge of strategic planning, then moved on into the digital world. That was around five years ago when I became one of the founding members of Indonesia’s largest digital payment business. I was employee number three and had multiple roles on the commercial side, sales, marketing, analytics, business development, operations, etc., and spend approximately close to four years there.
I then moved into another digital venture, the BeliMobilGue.co.id, which is part of the Frontier Car Group based in Berlin that operates in 10 countries. I was the appointed CEO of that company for the Southeast Asia region. But at that time, we didn’t expand to any other country beyond Indonesia. It is a marketplace in the automotive business where people buy and sell their cars. I think I was there for approximately about half a year, and then OLX group added the investment in Frontier Car Group, and we were rebranded as OLX Autos. I’m currently responsible for all OLX Group businesses in Indonesia including, including Classified, Advertising from the OLX side, and Convenient Transactions and other new business lines from OLX Autos side. That’s pretty much, I think, like one or two minutes about my journey.
What are your observations on how the ‘Digital-First’ space evolved in the last few years? And how has it been affected by the current pandemic scenario?
Johnny: There has been some phenomenal change. So, I mean, if I reflect, the pandemic started to hit Indonesia approximately around the February-March 2020 timeframe. And that’s when we actually started working from home and settle indoors. There are a couple of things that rapidly started accelerating during that timeframe, like the process of digitization. People like me suddenly increased spending on online food delivery and stopped or reduced using ride-hailing platforms. There were a lot of behavioral changes. Suddenly people started to spend much time on OTT platforms and eCommerce platforms. So that’s one, the behavior changed.
Second, I think people, in general, became more conscious of their safety and hygiene. They minimized in-person interactions, started picking up a lot of new hobbies, etc. During the pandemic, I have written two books; one is on how we can get through the crisis, which is very related to the topic today. And the other one is a book about building a country through start-ups. I also started to do a lot of stuff J-Talk podcast, so in a way, we all got more involved and accomplished a lot more than otherwise, we would have. People also started paying more attention to their primary needs. For example, if someone wishes to buy a car, they start to think about other variables like if they would have their job, get the same amount of salaries, etc. I picked up all these points through our survey on potential buyers and sellers in the OLX Autos platform.
There has been a really strong shift in the thinking of the people themselves. However, on the other hand, if we look at the businesses, we see a couple of specific reactions. The business is forced to be more innovative in doing things because at the end of day one if you are doing a lot of the offline business, you would probably struggle owing to the lockdowns. So, businesses have to pivot, and there are two ways to do it. One, either you innovatively focus on a different business like selling masks, protective hygiene products, and all that’s connected to the crisis, or you start incrementally focusing towards the digitalization of your business, like putting assurance of safety and hygiene protocols, and that the business can go online. This is also one of the things that I shared in my book that for businesses to survive, they have to plan on what they want to do and then grow the moment from the whole cycle of start to finish. In essence, in the automotive business, we started to see and make sure that customers start to believe in us’ safety measures. We publish a lot of videos to educate people on how we are running the safety protocols making sure that things are moving and it is safe for them to come in the storefront. We also started to build innovative ways of selling cars. For example, previously, customers had to come to our locations to do all the cars’ inspections; however, now we switched the model, allowing them to get us to do all the required inspections while staying at home. We send our representatives who are thoroughly checked, sanitized, and with all the proper attire to the customer location to inspect the vehicle. We also allowed our dealer partners to represent our brand and become the authorized dealers to sell the cars. We are also looking at helping the customers to sell directly to the consumers through the platform. I know it’s really hard to pick everything online instantly, but at the very least, the process of accelerating the changes has started.
One of the pandemic fallouts is that demand for used cars is surging as buyers consider budget-friendly personal transport to avoid public transport or even ride-sharing platforms. What are your observations regarding this? Are there new trends emerging in the Southeast Asian markets?
Johnny: We see this, and by the way, this data is also available online that the dealers sold around four to five cars per week, on average before COVID-19. Then during the pandemic, it dropped to one or nothing at some point. However, we are probably running at around three to four cars per week in this moment of transition, roughly. So that itself tells us that we are around 80% of the Pre-COVID conditions.
Secondly, we also ran a survey with our potential buyers. And to your point exactly, the buyers are beginning to realize the need to buy their own cars instead of using public transport or ride-sharing platforms to ensure their families and themselves’ safety. So, many people who plan to buy a new car now have many concerns about the continuity of their income and buy a second-hand car instead. They are seeing where the economy is going. Another thing that is being considered is that 70% of people who buy a vehicle use financing options. And the financing companies are now taking more precautions in releasing their funds because of the fear of not recollecting the loans or repossessing the vehicles in case of another economic emergency. However, the good news is that I think the past two to three days, I’ve seen some news where the Central Bank has mentioned that there is a growth of the credit in Indonesia, and next year it is going to be about 7% to 9%, which is good. The macroeconomic indicators like GDP growth, inflation rate, US dollar exchange rate, and deficit are looking good. I guess for the businesses now; it’s an upward trajectory.
Most businesses are innovating across business functions and diversifying their product/service portfolios, leveraging tech due to uncertain times and as part of their bounce-back strategies. What are your plans for OLX Autos? Are you contemplating adding financing and insurance options to your customers?
Johnny: As mentioned earlier, we are trying incrementally to innovate with options like home inspection and our dealer franchising models. So we help our partners to make sure that they are still in the business and grow together with us where we help them with deal assistance. And the most recent one is we are going into that retail business.
In terms of innovating the business, one of the things that we are looking into, and hopefully, it will be launched in the next couple of months, is the option of self-inspection of vehicles before selling. In this model, the seller would perform the vehicle inspections themselves and upload the details online for the dealers or businesses like us to offer them a price. This moves from offline and tries to push the business as much as possible towards the online side.
Some businesses are then trying to introduce the subscription model of owning a car instead of buying another option. However, the key is to put trust and peace of mind for the consumer as a priority by being transparent in estimating the price of a used car based on inspections. So, whoever can crack that will probably be able to win the market.
Thirdly, we as businesses need to leverage each other and graduate from being pure classified players to transaction players. Because at the end of the day, it is a more sustainable business model where volumes of transactions are more compared to being just a classifieds business. We need to collaborate with convenience and retail stores and be a platform where volumes of transactions are higher.
What are your recommendations for businesses from a digital-first strategy considering the new normal? What should they consider in their business strategy while they’re planning for next year?
Johnny: This is exactly the things discussed in my book, but unfortunately, it is not available in English. So, three steps should go into the strategy. One is basically to survive, the second is to plan, and the third is to grow in general. And, and that applies not only for businesses but also towards the individual itself.
This pandemic will not get over soon because we will have to test its effectiveness, distribution strategy, and many layers of questions once the vaccine comes in. So by every means, I would say even with the vaccine, we probably will need to live with it till the next few years, at the very least. Hence, we will need to survive this. Businesses will need to think and prepare themselves to operate efficiently, and that’s where digitization comes in.
That doesn’t mean to change overnight and invest a lot in digitization. Businesses can start small and should only spend on what is necessary initially. The business will also need to continuously engage with its customers during this tough period to ensure presence in their mind. Customers will remember us when we genuinely help them during this period.
Secondly, when businesses start to plan, the focus should be on incremental innovation, incremental benefit, incremental improvement on the current existing product, or switching towards a very new product. This is the best time for businesses to train people, get new people, and start building that digitization mindset.
The next one is to have the vision to rebound back by being prepared for the growth phase. Businesses will have to predict the path and market conditions as everything will be on a higher trajectory as we advance. So that’s how I see it.